• spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app
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      14 hours ago

      Oh nononono, this is how capitalists, and free enterprise types before them (and let’s be real; a lot of royalty, too), always were. There has always been greedy fucks trying to get as much wealth out of every encounter they could. Though capitalism normalized it for the average Joe.

      Just look up “company towns” for one example of how shitty they have already been in the past. They’ve always strived for normal people owning nothing.

      The only reason it seems like the past twenty years is because during the previous fifty years, the capitalists were heavily regulated, unions were strong (after fighting and literally dying for much of the nice things we enjoy today like a five day work week), and the ultra-wealthy were taxed to hell and back.

      There will always be greedy selfish fucks that must see number go up. The world is slowly re-learning that they are the problem, not the solution.

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        14 hours ago

        oh no, I’m not oblivious to that either lol i was just talking about the removal of physical media and addition of software subscriptions specifically.

        Capitalism has always been evil as fuck, no argument there.

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    15 hours ago

    Next thing you know, they’ll be charging a subscription fee for using the software.

    It’s called PS+, and they’re already charging for it /hj

    But seriously. The last playstation I owned was PS4, I had so many annoyances with it, half of which were caused by sony not supporting my country properly. When I got a PC I didn’t even intend to use it for gaming much (other than some indies I couldn’t get for console) but I found the experience that wildly better I’d never booted up the playstation again, nor would I buy any further consoles

    Them heading down this route is definitely not gonna encourage me to give them any of my money lol

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      15 hours ago

      Yeah, PS4 ended up being my last Sony console because of PS+ which I refused to pay for. Only bought physical single player exclusives for it and jailbroke it when it became an option. But, I didn’t use it much because of my PC compared to how much I used my PS3. So that led to me skip the PS5.

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        14 hours ago

        I had a somewhat similar experience. Except because sony wouldn’t even let me make an account in my country I couldn’t add a payment card, so if I wanted PS+ I would’ve had to buy a gift card for it for the country my account was set to lol. Similarly I couldn’t buy digital games or DLC without going through that bullshit either, so I just bought physical disks.

        I was a teen then so not having a job also meant the PS+ thing was a bit of a cycle - I wouldn’t buy PS+ cause I had no games that needed it, and I wouldn’t buy games that needed PS+ cause I didn’t have it, as I only had a limited amount a month to actually spend on games :p

        Anywho yeah, with not having to pay for online, having mods, not being so loud I’d often miss plot critical details, way better options for control configurations for controller, and actually being able to buy games without having to go through loopholes… well I just found PC gaming better in just about every way once I got a computer, so I really had to interest in the PS5, especially at the price range it launched at

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    16 hours ago

    I don’t. If they do something stupid I don’t buy it.
    I don’t recall the last AAA games I paid for I mostly stick to indie games now days.

    That being said indie devs do make bad decisions too. A recent example is Transport Fever 3 where they partnered with Paradox, that took the game off my wishlist and onto my ignored list. Their post announcing it got zero thumbs up when every other post has over 3K.

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      15 hours ago

      I’m with you. I think this whole past year I’ve only played games included in Gamepass, and during that period where they jacked up the price, I was on the cheap tier.

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        15 hours ago

        Yes, because still giving them money is what will fix things 🙄

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          13 hours ago

          It did. They raised the price and I immediately dropped to a plan that was cheaper than the one I had before. They lost money on me and I assume others, because they dialed back on the price change and brought it back into a reasonable range.

          Sure, cancelling completely would have hurt them by an extra $10/mo, but then I’m stuck with a device that I can’t use at all, or I’m spending 50-100 times as much money to buy the same bullshit from someone else.

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            13 hours ago

            You’re acting like it’s the only option, but it’s not. You don’t need to lock yourself into a walled garden. You don’t need to buy into a sunk cost fallacy. Even participating a little perpetuates and reinforces the bullshit you’re complaining about, and they’re never gong to suddenly give in to the way things should be. Stop letting these companies hold what you want hostage, dictating how you view your options.

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              12 hours ago

              Do you use a smartphone?

              You’re never going to change the world alone. There aren’t enough people with your attitude of “cut everything completely” to ever make a change. There has to be compromise somewhere, on both sides.

              If someone bought a thing, they are entitled to use that thing. If the maker makes it unusable, then their options for use are limited. 99.9% of people aren’t going to learn how to reverse engineer a game console to figure out how to jailbreak it, and without AI assistance, that usually takes multiple years to figure out, which is usually promptly patched out in an automatic mandatory update. Most people aren’t going to even bother, so they will either pay more to keep the use, or throw it out. And for most people, they aren’t throwing it out.

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                11 hours ago

                Right, because the only alternative is reverse engineering professional hardware. /s That’s seriously what you think? No wonder you feel “compromise” is your best option. Good luck with that.

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                  10 hours ago

                  So, what would you propose instead?

                  I have a Series X that I bought when they first came out, 6 years ago. That’s it. No other consoles, no PC.

                  What’s your solution to “fight the man” that allows me to game on the weekends?

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      16 hours ago

      I’m still salty about Introversion selling Prison Architect to Paradox. It went from a stable, well-designed colony sim with everything included out-of-the-box to a buggy piece of crap with a dozen equally buggy DLC packs, half of which didn’t even fit the game’s theme.

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    14 hours ago

    “You will own nothing and you will be happy”. No inequality if everyone’s equally miserable, and helps push the acceptable amount of control. Something not just these companies do, and that I have the impression that isn’t even originally their agenda.

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      14 hours ago

      not everyone is equally miserable when the “you will own nothing” part doesn’t apply to the billionaires who are making it so no one else can own anything.

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    15 hours ago

    When black ops 2 was ported to ps5, it became top 1 most played game on that platform and Sony used it as an evidence that digital is better than physical disc.