The agency wants to lower how much salt we consume over the next three years to an average of 2,750 milligrams per day. That’s still above the recommended limit of 2,300 mg.

The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday laid out fresh goals to cut sodium levels in packaged and processed foods  by about 20%, after its prior efforts to address a growing epidemic of diet-related chronic diseases showed early signs of success.

The FDA in October 2021 had set guidelines to trim sodium levels in foods ranging from potato chips to hamburgers in a bid to prevent excessive intake of salt that can trigger high blood pressure, a major risk factor for heart disease and stroke.

The agency is now seeking voluntary curbs from packaged-food makers such as PepsiCo, Kraft Heinz and Campbell Soup. The companies did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

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      a former coworker sat and tried to convince me that sugar is neither bad for you nor addictive. the sugar lobby psychological manipulation propaganda machine is the behemoth that has to be dismantled before any meaningful change can even be attempted

      this coworker was an instructional academic librarian who included confirmation bias and how to avoid it in her teaching

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          yea, the whole “everything is bad for you if you do enough of it to kill yourself!” is a pretty common response. and yes, that’s true. there IS a threshold for everything. one cigarette won’t kill you either.

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            one cigarette won’t kill you either.

            Interesting. The fearmongers at school told us it could.

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            Agreed but the cigarette analogy is not really accurate.

            Sugar is arguably good for you in moderation. We evolved to seek out sugar in the form of fruits, berries, etc. Quick energy, fast acting carbohydrates etc.

            Can’t think of how this translates to a single cigarette lol.

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                Agree 100%. And arguably “in moderation” is much lower than people might want it to be. Plus most of this stuff is processed with high fructose corn syrup trash.

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                    HFCS is literally just liquid sugar.

                    HFCS isn’t even just one product. There are different blends that are all HFCS. At the extreme, HFCS-90, is far FAR different than table sugar. HFCS-55 is close to table sugar (which would be numbered “50” if table sugar used that same numbering scheme), and there’s HFCS-42 which is farther away from table sugar.

                    The Corn Refiners Association (CRA) have been successful in rebranding HFCS under a bunch of different names so you don’t know it anymore. Current labeling has HFCS-90 (the worst kind) simply called “Fructose” on ingredient labels now. source

                    source2 which is a bit more sketchy to me

                    edit: corrected first source link

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                As in, not selling drinks and snacks that are like 30% sugar

                On the flip side, those snacks and drinks are ideal for athletes.

                I wouldn’t want to stop having those foods available, simply because the majority of the population are idiots when it comes to fueling their bodies.

                People need to have some self control, ffs.

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              We evolved to seek out sugar because it is energy dense in a time when food wasn’t plentiful

              Today we have more food than we know what to do with

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              Nicotine helps with neural degeneration and things like dementia and alzheimers.

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              Agreed but the cigarette analogy is not really accurate.

              why not? if you’re going by “too much of anything is bad for you,” then doesn’t it follow that “NOT too much of anything isn’t necessarily bad for you”?

              so yea, one soda won’t kill you = true. also one cigarette won’t kill you = true.

              what i’m getting at is that your “argument” isn’t one

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              I think you’re conflating natural occurring sugars to manmade sugars.

              The natural sugars in fruits is okay. Adding 75-80% of the daily value of man made added sugars to ONE drink are what we are talking about.

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          Yeah except that every can of coke is too much, and most people don’t have a problem with water addiction

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          That’s like saying arsenic isn’t bad for you, but too much is.

          Sugar is indeed bad for you. Like any refined carbohydrate.

          Too much sugar as it happens is an insanely small amount. Most people have had too much sugar before they’ve left the house in the morning.

          We need carbohydrates, but as it happens we only need a little and we can get everything we need from a few servings of green vegetables.

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              Huh. TIL.

              Lead? Heroin?

              I stand by my point, refined sugar isn’t even arguably good for you. A handful of jolly ranchers won’t kill you but it’s not a good source of carbohydrates.

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                No arguing about it. You need sugar to live. You should be getting it alongside other nutrients in regular food.

                You don’t need soda to live. Empty calories are what’s bad.

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                  You need some carbohydrates.

                  In no universe do you need refined sugar. You absolutely don’t need hundreds of grams of carbohydrates a day. Your body needs less than 100 grams a day and that’s being generous.

                  You can literally get all the carbohydrates your body needs from green vegetables or a single piece of fruit.

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                    In other words, you should be getting it alongside other nutrients in regular food.

                    from green vegetables or a single piece of fruit.

                    Which is fructose. Do you know what “refined sugar” (HFCS) is?

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          Sodium and sugar are not “bad” for you. Sodiums/salts are arguably an absolute necessity for brain function lol (electrolytes). It’s the too much that is the bad part. There’s natural sugar in fruits and stuff, which you already know. Blanket statements like “sugar is bad” are dumb.

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            Maybe if the issue wasn’t soo widespread, but the manufactured over abundance has tipped the scales enough that simple statements of sugar/sodium being bad for you (even if not entirely correct) are a step in the right direction.

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              No, you are wrong and so is your ridiculous statement.

              even if not entirely correct

              It’s not that it’s “not entirely correct”, it’s entirely incorrect. Full stop.

              We evolved to seek out sugar. Originally in the form of fruits and berries and whatnot, as its an efficient fast acting carbohydrate for quick energy. It is good for you. Period.

              Over consumption due to over abundance and the capitalist profit motive not giving a shit about the consequences on people’s health, because muh profits, is why people eat to much of it.

              Your solution is to blatantly lie, which is dumb and wrong. Lying is not a step in the right direction ever.

              Educate people, and hold capitalists accountable, in the form of violent regulation. You ain’t gonna do that cuz you have no power and never will. Lying is dumb. Sugar is good for you in moderation.

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                Yeah because searching for berries all day is exhausting, ordering a pizza and 2l of coke is not you muppet.

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                  But that doesn’t make sugar bad. It makes too much sugar bad, which seems to be what they were saying. Albeit, ineloquently. **Insert thought terminating insult.

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        Now that trans fats are gone, the best way to improve fats is you can’t just add sugar and call it low fat.