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… Is it possible the office is in Southeast London but the actual work is North and West?
This is how field service jobs are written in my experience, yes.
How fucking spoiled are Europeans when they won’t take a job on the other side of town???
I love that you reversed it, when it should be “how terrible do Americans have it where we have to commute so far just to get to work”
And it says the hours are 9 to 5. Who the fuck cares then? If it takes you four hours to get from south east London to north west London, then there’s half of your day. Grab some crisps or some spotted dick and put some footie on your vodafone in the tube.
This could be a 90 commute in each direction depending on where it is.
It’s fairly insane that from Romford to Sutton which is only 30 miles, it’s roughly an hour and 45 minutes.
I just went to the Wiltern in downtown LA last night and it’s about the same distance as Romford to Sutton from where I live, and without traffic, it takes 40 minutes, with traffic an hour.
I used to do Clapham to Cricklewood - which at rush hour could be up to 2 hours if there were delays or it was too busy to fit on a tube.
90 time
alright you got me
I live in a suburb to the east of Phoenix. I wouldn’t even consider a job on the west side. Nothing to do with Europe, just the reality of a large city.
Where I live, you can drive for three hours and still be within the city limits
Unrelated but this is literally the first time in my life I’ve seen an actual 9-5 job, I only ever see 8-5 or 9-6
That extra hour of wage theft is why it’s the most prevalent kind of theft.
✨️unpaid lunch hourrrrrrr✨️
remember to be back by 12:30 for the standup at 12:45
you should have finished eating by then
fuck you i’m gonna eat my tuna sandwich in the middle of your standup
The only good thing about the security industry in my country is all breaks are paid. However if there is a security emergency on your break you need to drop everything and sort it, as these things tend to be time sensitive.
That said do NOT get into the security industry, workers are treated terribly by the public and higher ups, if you can imagine.
That seems like a US thing? All Nordic Europe countries 8-16 is the US version of 9-5. 8-17 (9-6) would be a 4 days a week job hitting the normal 37 hour work week.
Not all Nordic countries. The main standard work weeks in Sweden are 40 hours for office work employees. Our collective union agreements for most office work places I know of agree on at least half hour unpaid lunch and at least two 15 minute paid breaks each work day. Every place I worked for had flexible hours, which meant I could choose between turning up between 7 or 9, as long as I didn’t miss meetings and worked 40 hours a week at an average, based on monthly calculations. And any overtime was compensated with double time off and/or monetary overtime compensation.
This will of course be different for shift work or nurse/doctor positions. But I’ve never worked an 8-16 job.
8-16 each day is 40 hours not counting the breaks. (Counting them would make it 37)
So do Swedish people work from 8-16, 9-5 or do office workers work from 8-17, 9-6 everyday (inkluding Friday)?
I have family in Malmö and that is not the case for them. Can’t speak in the standard for Sweden but I worked closely with Norwegians and they had the same 8-16 (8-15 Friday) in Oslo as we did in in Denmark(KBH).
Well, the standard recommended work hours would be 08-17 (8 AM to 5 PM), with one hour unpaid lunch, so 8 hours paid. And you can take those paid breaks, or even combine them with lunch. Most places (that don’t have shifts, scheduled appointments or aren’t school or health care related) allow for this kind of flexibility.
My current work place has 39 hours a week during the half year during or close to winter and around 37 hours during the summer or the months adjoining summer. Then again, most people tend to flex actual hours worked, e.g. working 4 hours on Monday and Friday, and working more hours during the same week or compensating for it later. But you HAVE to take at least 30 minutes of lunch, and the workplace tries to enforce the paid breaks as well. So some, like me, take an hour off for lunch, but use our half hour unpaid lunch and add on breaks 2x15 with pay (which is billed to our clients, as we’re legally entitled to). So I can show up anywhere between 06:30 and 11:00 (as long as I don’t have deadlines or meetings) and decide how I want to dispose the hours of my time on schedule.
And I get 7 weeks off, paid, every year. And pad it out with overtime so that I work maybe a week of overtime and get two weeks extra off for holidays.
Here in Finland the standard seems to be 8-16, with 30 min lunch, for a total of 37,5h work per week
Definitely not a US thing. Here in the UK I don’t think I’ve worked 9-5 for over 20 years…
It’s because they reckon on 8-hour days but then under UK law they have to give you two 15-minute breaks and one 30-minute lunch. So they decide that they don’t like that so you’ve got to work the hours back so they add an extra hour on and then claim that your break times don’t count.
But the problem with that is the only reason that I’m having a break in the town rather than at my house is because of all the other hours I’m doing around it. So really they should be paying for it. Capitalism is going to capitalism.
Before my current job, any job I’ve had had an 8.5 hour shift with a half an hour unpaid lunch. But I managed to score a gig where I have an 8.0 hour shift with a half an hour paid lunch. It seems uncommon in the US, but I guess it must be common elsewhere.
Yeah, theres an hour for lunch. It works out to 8 hour days
You’re supposed to get paid for that.
“Supposed to” according to what?
If you’re in the US, Federal labor laws explicitly allow “meal periods” to not be paid, though short breaks must be paid. Neither is required to be offered to employees, though.
Source: https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks
State laws differ, of course, and many states - e.g., California - have much more employee-friendly laws. However, even in CA, a meal period must be offered but isn’t required to be paid (unless it’s an on-duty meal break).
You get salary, its paid
But do you get paid for 8 hour days or 9 hour days?
8 to 5 is 9 hours. They don’t get to not pay you for your lunch break.
You get paid for the month. You arent paid by the hour, you are paid for working for them.
Its a different mindset
OK so next time you’ve done your work for the day, try going home early. Do let us know how it goes.
You aren’t paid by the hour as long as it suits the company. As soon as it suits you, you’re damn well going to sit there until 5pm staring at the ceiling if you have to, THEN you can go home.
That depends on your manager. Ive had some that let me work whenever, one that wanted butt in seat, and right now, I play video games so long as Im reachable.
My favorite is when the title says remote or local to you, but then the body of the posting says you would be required to relocate and that it was intentionally posted in multiple cities to reach a wider audience.
If I wanted to work in Minnesota, I would have searched for jobs in Minnesota.
why does everyone have to have “excellent” skills? just logically not everyone can have excellent skills, or there wouldn’t be excellent skills. i very much doubt everyone currently working there also has equally “excellent” skills. you can’t just say you have to be perfect. i fucking hate this shit
In fairness to requiring “excellence”, I’d imagine most professionals have excellent skills in their field compared to the average person.
I’ve worked a lot of different jobs over the years, some well in my skill set, some well outside, and if there’s one thing I’ve noticed, it’s that with very few exceptions, knowledge and skills matter very little, what matters most is sucking up to the boss, a skill I am exceedingly bad at. Interestingly enough, one of the jobs where skill mattered most was construction, even when I worked for my uncle, he barely cut me any breaks. He once said “you hammer like old people fuck”. Not to mention the number of times he yelled at me because I was shit with a tape measure. “Cut it 3 times and it’s still too short”. Yeah nepotism didn’t help me there.
What I hate more are the entry level jobs that will be like that. Like bro it’s an entry level job and you’re expecting people to have a super deep understanding makes no sense. Like I get it’s just marketing and a way to lower the number of applicants to get just the really good ones but it makes it so much harder to figure out what level of skill a job is looking for if they all say they want experts with certain skills or tools.
It’s just marketing.
It’s like how a 7 or 8 out of 10 movie should mean it’s really great, but actually means it was just “ok”.
We like the idea that we are getting something above average, which ends up with a skewed idea of what average is.
It’s not even that. If they ask for average they get trash. If they ask for excellent then trash doesn’t apply and they get average
Or the trash with excellent ability to lie their ass off applies.
At least they are good at lying their ass off!
Yeah at my job at the end of each week my boss will assign priorities to tasks as not priority to high priority. She’ll change them around and discuss why for about 45 minutes and by the end of the meeting every single task is listed as highest priority every week. If everything is always equally the highest priority is anything a priority anymore? Lol
I hate the ones that are listed as remote, but when you read deeper it says remote - in x location, if there was a way to filter those out of searches, it would be convenient.
Is that the ones where they claim it’s remote but really they need you in the office 3 days a week?
I once made the mistake of saying I was willing to relocate, like to a different city or something, and they took that to mean anywhere on the planet. And all the jobs they were asking me about when weird places like Saudi Arabia, and it wasn’t even well paid.
But there were probably benefits like if you work hard they might give you your passport back. Maybe.
That sounds like a good way to get trafficked lol
My favorite is the remote - location jobs. Almost none of them are actually remote, they just want more people to apply so their quota will be met.
This is a huge problem. During my several months of job searching that drove me nuts. Completely different stated in the US. Someone’s opposite side of the country. I would report them to LinkedIn and LinkedIn said there’s nothing wrong. Fucked up LinkedIn
Search: part time jobs
- Results: part time job!
- Fine print: full time job, some overtime mandatory
Search: work from home
- Some office time required
Search: job at a place
- Travel required up to 50 miles
Search: one way international flight ticket Boeing planes only
All of these. Also…language: English *Mandarion/French/etc required
Entry level: Minimum 2 years experience
I have to use my hands to finger?! F this nonsense, I’m out.
Toe fuck or get fucked.
It’s a barely legal attempt to scare away people with disabilities, which scares me away too.
Is this a jobs website? Report it?
Hey at least it is in the same city, I used to get ones for 2000 Km away.
Well, it’s all Earth.
I await the ones for the Moon or Mars…
Applicant must be willing to relocate to the Barnard’s star system but will also be required in the London office 3 days a week
Thank Zaphod the Hyperspace Bypass is on schedule!
I often stumble across jobs in Antarctica listed in my region. It’s right there in the headline, so its easy to skip over them, but i have to wonder, how else would you advertise for jobs in remote locations where most people wouldn’t even think to look?
Its funny at that point of my life I would have moved for the right job, but these where often my literal job but in a worse place.
WTF are demonstrable analytical skills?
The ability to call out BS or contradictory requirements in a job posting.
You’re hired!
Sounds like the head office is in SE London but you’ll be inspecting areas on the NW side for fire safety adherence, right?
If so, it isn’t like the businesses can bring their whole business down to the office for inspection. I bet “Steve” has the area close to the office but “Jane” just quit and they need someone to cover her old area.
This reminds me of the description of why field positions are listed under remote jobs to often. Yes, the reason I was searching for remote jobs was so I can travel to your remote locations all throughout the day, not because my vehicle has 230,000 miles on it and I can’t afford to replace it at the moment.
Sure, but then you’re not looking for jobs like “Fire Risk Assessor” which clearly indicates you’ll have to travel to sites and Assess their Risk of Fire on site, so you could safely scroll past something like that and look for something like “Remote Computer Doer” that at least indicates it’s probably remote computer type stuff.
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