• dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
      191·
      4 hours ago

      What you talking about.

      There is video of this incident and the woman tried to lets the cops pass and they told her to move. Then when she drove forwards to move they unloaded on her.

      If he had enough time to shoot and get out of the way he had enough time to just get out of the way.

      American cops are babies. Just look at how the UK cops disarmed a guy with a knife yesterday who stabbed two people.

      • mangobanana@discuss.online
        6·
        2 hours ago

        And let’s not forget, THEY WERE NOT FUCKING COPS. ICE are not police no matter what vest they buy from Amazon. They are not police. They are immigration enforcement. Again, not police

        • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
          6·
          2 hours ago

          Don’t engage this troll. 3 year account with 4 posts: two when he started 2.8 years ago, and two today. One post mentioned that he preferred the “control” over at Reddit.

          4 posts, and we know he loves Reddit and Law Enforcement authority. He’s a proud Fascist.

        • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
          101·
          3 hours ago

          I watched the two videos where she was told to move as she was in the way and offering them to pass. When they told her to move and so she did.

          Even if someone’s fleeing isn’t it better to just record their tag and then go arrest them at home rather than just murder them.

          American cops are big babies. Always scared and always assume the worst. I’ve seen them shoot People dead who have a knife where we in the UK repeatedly take out knife attackers with just a taser or riot shields. When you’re a hammer everything looks like a nail, when you have a gun you just shoot first. The amount of times they let people bleed out as they’re too soft to approach a downed target 😂.

          • quarkquasar@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 hours ago

            I’ve seen videos of US cops shooting people running away, or just casually shooting people in the head like they were at the range.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
      11·
      3 hours ago

      Law Enforcement is already finding out that they can’t fuck with American citizens. They exist at OUR pleasure, not the other way around. We know that, but we are polite enough to not dwell on it, and just live our lives.

      But interrupt that flow of society, and it will not go well for them. They are BADLY outnumbered.

      • remon@ani.social
        1·
        2 hours ago

        Law Enforcement is already finding out that they can’t fuck with American citizens

        Huh?

        Seems like they pretty much can go around murdering American citizens with impunity. Where is the finding out?

        • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
          3·
          2 hours ago

          The ubiquity of video cameras mean that police abuses are coming to light constantly, and bad cops are being held accountable for the first time. Here’s a recent video of two NYC detectives brutally beating a guy in a bodega, in public, on front of witnesses, in front of cameras.

          It used to be that the public would automatically take the side of Law Enforcement, but now it is exactly the opposite. In fact, now people WANT to catch cops doing bad stuff so they get a valuable viral video.

          These guys - detectives, so they are experienced trained veteran caps - were confident that they could beat this totally innocent victim of mistaken identity (so the cops were incompetent, too, not just violent), with no consequences at all, but they’ve been fired. If there hadn’t been a camera, if the video hadn’t been released, these cops would have totally gotten away with it, but the public is now monitoring every public Law Enforcement incident, and acting on the abuses they record.

          The environment for cops has turned much more hostile, and it’s getting even hotter. Just because people aren’t shooting at cops (yet) doesn’t mean that cops aren’t feeling the heat. Getting outed in the international media as a violent scumbag for beating and killing innocent people, and getting fired for it (due to the undeniable video evidence), means your FAMILY is going to have to deal with YOUR Tomfoolery at school, work, church, the grocery store, the salon, friends, etc. Do you think your kids’ friends are going to be allowed to come over to play? Mine wouldn’t be.

          Think of that arrogant, racist, violent ape, when he realizes that the brutal, violent career he loves has come to an end, and he’s probably going to have to take a job at Home Depot, or worse, in the guard shack at a gated community for rich assholes, where he will make minimum wage, and he won’t be allowed to beat up the residents for Fun & Dopamine, and whatever else he can steal from them. And on top of that, his family hates him. There are worse things than death.

        • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
          2·
          2 hours ago

          Just because they aren’t as bad as they could be, we should just allow them to continue being increasingly abusive?

          Here’s an example of two veteran, trained, experienced NYC detectives handling a suspect in their own special “civilized” way, in public, in front of cameras, confident nothing will happen to them.

          Oh, BTW, they had the wrong guy. He’s now suing them for $100 million, for their “civilized” behavior, so something did happen to them, they got fired. THEY were the ones who FAFO’d.

          Cops, civilized? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. After MAGA, law enforcement is easily the most destabilizing, uncivilized entity in America. American cops are a large portion of the problem.

            • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
              1·
              1 hour ago

              First of all, I never used that phrase, and I don’t agree with it, and I am seriously offended whenever anyone tries to put words I dont agree with, and didn’t say, in my mouth with QUOTATIONS. I didn’t say that, I don’t believe that, and you reveal yourself as disengenuous right out of the gate. That means you’re a liar.

              “Defund the police” was a really stupid, but typical, self-inflicted Democratic wound. Really, really dumb, even dumber than the usual Democratic stupidity. It was about the worst choice of words to describe a necessary thing we need to do - reform law enforcement - but that phrase handed MAGA a propaganda grenade that they could throw into every discussion, just like you just did.

              No, I am not for “defunding” the police, whatever that means, anyway. I AM for taking strict independent civilian control of police budgets, training, hiring, and firing. The entire Law Enforcement model in this country need to be totally overhauled, with the emphasis put on crime prevention, and rehabilitation. Mental health teams should be a mandatory part of every police department, to be dispatched to certain scenes. De-escalation should be emphasized at all times. Cops will be trained to handle violent situations, but the strategy should always be to calm things down.

              Along with that, we need better childhood education, with the emphasis OFF political indoctrination, and more on teaching Critical Thinking Skills, so they know how to THINK, and handle everyday problems, and reject propaganda. Without Critical Thinking Skills, people don’t learn to think properly, and they substitute a chaotic mentality that leaves them susceptible to scams, propaganda, predators & parasites, abusive partners, MAGA, etc, and leads them into CRIME. Give kids good Critical Thinking Skills, and an education that includes either college or some sort of vocational training, and you will greatly reduce crime over the next generation.

              Whenever there is a shooting, we hear that the cop followed all the protocols he learned in training. When a cop kills someone in a situation that could have easily ended with no deaths, simply because the cop steered it that way, the “protocols” and “training” shouldn’t excuse it. He may have followed the rules he was taught, but that’s a bright red flashing sign that those rules are faulty, and need reform. We need new rules.

              It’s not stupid to call for Law Enforcement to have to follow civilized rules of society, and want to reform them so that they do. It IS stupid to demand we keep supporting a system that is clearly corrupt, violent, expensive, and badly broken, without even acknowledging there is a problem.

  • notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zipEnglish
    17·
    23 hours ago

    Didn’t he also get nearly a million raised for a go fund me? He didn’t set it up but last time I saw it posted it was over $700k.

    • osanna@lemmy.vgEnglish
      81·
      4 hours ago

      nah, if she didn’t wanna get shot, she

      checks notes

      shouldn’t have been peacefully existing.

      Am I doing this right?

    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
      26·
      1 day ago

      The article didn’t even mention what state he’s in now. How are citizens supposed to express their “sympathy and gratitude” to him with a firm handshake if they don’t even know how to find him? Asking for a friend.

    • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
      49·
      1 day ago

      Yes, that’s right. And that’s exactly why he’s climbing the career ladder. That’s how it is in a country ruled by criminals.

      The U.S. legal system is just as unlikely to hold him accountable as the administration, because it is so corrupt that it not only fails to fulfill its purpose but serves as a tool for these criminals to secure their power indefinitely. Another example of this is the Epstein case.

      This system is obviously beyond repair. Yet it will continue this way, because U.S. citizens aren’t doing anything about it.

    • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zipEnglish
      6·
      1 day ago

      It’s such an average name. I have the feeling there’s been several (in)famous people with that exact name in the past century.

        • Albbi@piefed.caEnglish
          6·
          24 hours ago

          Pretty sure that is Johnathan Woss. /s

          Hope that’s not insulting. I quite enjoy his lisp. I only know him from being the good host of Penn & Teller’s Fool Us.

  • jtrek@startrek.website
    72·
    2 days ago

    I’m really surprised no italian plumbers visited Ross after it became clear there would be no official justice.

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
    28·
    1 day ago

    and the dude who helped avoid legal trouble was the candidate that dropped out of the minnesota governor race. Also he marries a filipina wife, typical white supremecist always dates asians to “see im not racist” because any other citizen would be known to his bullshit thats why they choose ignorant foreigners.

  • WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    69·
    2 days ago

    Very simple dynamic at work here - behavior that you want repeated is rewarded.

    It’s only punished if you don’t want it repeated.

  • wheezy@lemmy.mlEnglish
    322·
    2 days ago

    Not a threat. Just an observation.

    Jonathan Ross, will either live in a jail cell for the rest of his life, dying old. Or, he will die young at the hands of vigilante justice.

    • el_muerte@lemmy.ca
      104·
      23 hours ago

      Based on the tremendous lack of meaningful action (no, peaceful protests don’t count) we’ve seen from ostensibly progressive 'Murricans claiming to be fed up with this shit, I’m not gonna hold my breath.

    • D_C@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      1 day ago

      Agreed.
      Though he could die young in the toilet block of a jail…

      Someone will find out his address and do the deed. This is the time of easy information and finding his address should be easy for the person angry enough to seek out this murderer.
      Personally I’d be shitting myself if I were him. Will I be attacked in the night? Will someone kick my door in and shoot me? Is that car following me?

    • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
      81·
      21 hours ago

      TBF we do exercise this on a daily basis and most times have a daily kill count that the rest of the world recoils at because it’s indiscriminate. That’s the tradeoff. For every Charlie or healthcare CEO there’s a few dozen kids gunned down during lunch hour. It’d be nice if everyone shot dead was a POS, but the reality is most people who go out and shoot others are assholes themselves, pick easy targets that have no connection to their rage, and even if you do shoot the douchebags; that’s it, your life is over. The system doesn’t tolerate underdog heroes. If we’re gonna do it, we all have to commit.