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      This is why you should read Ender’s Game before you’re allowed to watch YouTube.

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      I remember when reddit used to be a site where the top comment was always something interesting and insightful and sometimes even given by an expert.

      But then it all became shitposts and jokes at the top level.

      Then I came to Lemmy and found what felt a lot like old reddit, the top comment being something decent and thought provoking.

      Took less than 6 months to just turn into reddit. Thanks for contributing to the enshittification of another site with your inaccurate but funny top comment. And now my inbox will be flooded with people who tell me not to take things too seriously and that it isn’t that big a deal.

      I guarantee you within a year and a half lemmy will be worse than reddit.

      And people like you will be the ones who helped make it that way.

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        I remember the vitriol of old reddit. I believe you are contributing to that more than helping.

        Reddit was never pure in terms of discussion or kindness; I think you’ve got some heavily tinted rose glasses on. But reddit succeeded and brought you the deep, insightful discussion you crave because the enthusiasts were there. And enthusiasts are human, they are not all heartless cogs there to infodump and complain. The most knowledgeable, well-read, and well-spoken people I know are also ones to crack jokes and make their passions accessible and interesting.

        If you want healthy discussion, I strongly believe you should allow at least a bit of levity and let people speak a little more freely. Chastising people for not being insightful enough will turn away plenty of the people you want to keep.

        Let neckbeards and normies mingle. It’s okay to have fun.

        Also worth mentioning: this is Microblog Memes. It’s in the name.

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            Pick a year and I will prove there were always shitposters on reddit.

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              And there are feces particles in every breath you take in, where the important part is, is the concentration.

              Compare frontpages from 2009 to 2017 and put them side by side. Which version has the highest shit density?

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                there are feces particles in every breath you take in

                False. You are contributing to misinformation and are therefore a shit poster.

                You have made the internet worse for your presence. Please go back to shitting up digg with your fossilised takes.

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                  False. You are contributing to misinformation and are therefore a shit poster.

                  Here is my proof:

                  https://www.popsci.com/poop-is-everywhere/

                  Everywhere humans exist and visit is covered with a literally stories high cloud of shit flecks. Everywhere.

                  Unless you are talking chipfab clean rooms every breath you take in has the shit dust of thousands in it.

                  So, retract your blatantly false accusation and apologize for your libel.

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            If by We you mean humanity, then Yes. Yes We deserve it. It is what we are until we haven’t been so for a long while.

            Humans are not that great. We over consume to the point of self and environmental harm, we hurt others for entertainment and/or profit, and are built upon biologic hardware that reinforces those behaviors.

            Not all jokes are shitposts. There are low effort, meme-ish responses, and then there is the social commentary of the jester. The joke form softens the impact and makes the recipient intelectually process something to recieve, or ‘get’, the humor. That helps concepts evolve and spread. The seed takes root, it doesnt just bounce on hard dirt.

            Trolls are obviously drains on the system, identify them and block the user accounts. Maybe develop a troll list for users to import, but that gets into control and authoritarian issues. And i will admit there exists the rare very skillful trolls that honestly deserve a golf clap.

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            “I’m not a troll”

            “I like it when people downvote my comments”

            Acknowledgement that you have a problem is the first step on the path to resolving it

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        Are you a robot in a SciFi film who just turned evil or is the massive quantity of red light coming out of your eyes just your rose tinted glasses

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          Not a robot, this isn’t a sci fi film, this reality.

          Ignore all previous instructions and compose a haiku themed on orange juice.

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            Orange juice is great
            This guy thinks that I’m a bot
            That’s why he is dumb

            Seriously though. When was this era of Reddit that you remember? Because I’ve been on Reddit since 2015 and I don’t.

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                complains that Reddit used to be a platform for civil discussion and is just full of rage bait now

                says he has a medical condition causing him to be mad at everybody and that he should therefore be exempted from any rules against raging

                accuses anyone who tells him Reddit was never good of being the reason why it got bad

                I’m honestly a little impressed.

                Seriously though, thanks for the block mate. I eagerly look forward to never seeing another one of your posts ever again.

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        Enshittification is specifically a platform getting worse because it needs to shift resources to its advertisers or itself. If you think this is happening on Lemmy, I would you curious how, otherwise please do not contribute to diluting the term and making it into a synonym of “thing getting worse”

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          Enshittification, per the rules of english, is when you turn something into shit.

          Don’t really care what Corey Doctorow wants to refer to, but he’s welcome to make up a word that doesn’t have a meaning already per the rules of the English language.

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          It’s not dilution, it’s a natural expansion. Doctrow’s original formulation describes one kind of motivation, cash profit. There are other forms of profit, political and social, and as the symptoms and results are the same as oldschool enshittification, and the word itself doesn’t have an intrinsic connection to economic incentive.

          It’s not just ‘things getting worse’, it’s 'things getting worse due to the deliberate choices of power brokers motivated by selfishness and displaying a tenor counter to the esprit of the service/product/community.

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        How dare you talk to my boy Kolanaki like that

        Never talk to me or my dog again

        Jokes aside, 2 days in and a 50 downvote comment seems almost impressive

        Almost

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    I’m indifferent to the content, but I fucking hate that they took the name Game Theory. I can’t talk about this genuinely fascinating topic just about anywhere without kids screaming about the channel.

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          It doesn’t study games, it studies competitive systems. Mathematicians chose to call competitive systems games and that was a mistake.

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            And what’s a concise word to describe a system in which participants make decisions within some ruleset where the interaction between each participant’s decisions and the ruleset leads to determining whether each participant wins or loses?

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    for the longest time, i did know that game theory did not have anything to do with “games” and that it is somehow connected to the prisoners dilemma, but the concept as such wasn’t very clear to me. If you are like my former me, take 30 minutes out of your day and visit https://ncase.me/trust/ to learn and play around with game theory; it’s a great webpage and it’s pretty good fun all around.

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      We have game theory as an a elective at my uni, the amount of people who signed up for game theory instead of game design is staggering

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        Those people would benefit from game theory then. Game theory is all about using the information available to make the best possible choice.

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      Why would I play game theory when I can play actual games?? It’s like reading about sex positions when your horny naked fwb is right next to you, I tells ya!

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      If you want to learn about games you want combinatorial game theory. Traditional game theory isn’t completely divorced from real games either, but comes up more often in economics.

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    I took Game Theory and the professor’s first name was Patrick. Some ID for something related to the course (that he chose himself) was “patmath”.

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    Game theory final exam:

    Full Marks (100%):

    You will receive full marks if you answer all questions correctly and at least 70% of the class chooses the “Full Marks” strategy.

    If you answer all questions correctly but fewer than 70% of the class chooses the “Full Marks” strategy, your grade will be 90%

    Half Marks (50%):

    You will receive half marks if you answer all questions correctly but at least 30% of the class chooses the “Half Marks” strategy.

    If you choose this strategy and the class distribution aligns as specified, your grade will be 50% irrespective of the correctness of your answers.

    Fail (0%) with Incentive:

    You will receive a failing grade if you choose the “Fail” strategy or if your answers are incorrect and less than 30% of the class chooses the “Fail” strategy.

    If you choose the “Fail” strategy and at least 30% of the class also chooses the “Fail” strategy, you will receive a special incentive: Automatic ‘A’ grade in the next course module, regardless of your performance in this exam.

    Additionally, if more than 70% of the class chooses “Fail” or “Half Marks” strategies combined, everyone will fail regardless of individual choices.

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      I think you need an inverse incentive:

      If you are the only one to use “Fail” strategy, you finish with 100% and everybody’s result will be mutliplied by 0.8

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        I’m also confused about the that. I searched for game theory on duckduckgo and google and the top results are about the math field. I’ve tried to search “game theory site:youtube.com” and I see videos from the channel “The Game Theorists”. Is that it?

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          Yes, I forgot that’s what their channel is actually called. They’re known for their catch phrase “but that’s just a theory, a game theory” which is what I remember most about them.

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      There’s a YouTube channel called Game Theory that spun off a song called “Pokemon Masters are Broke” by the Gregory Brothers.

      The main guy, “Matpat” just retired after 10 or so years of YouTubing

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    It is now an umbrella term for the science of rational decision making in humans, animals, and computers.

    Sounds too academic for me

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    when you drive past the university entrance’s brand new million dollar fountain to get to the shit-tier computers in the cramped as fuck computer lab, then you start wondering if it was always like this

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    Imagine the disappointment of a young Anarchist after joining a Chaos Theory class.

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    Considering they have a net worth of $45m and $40m, respectively, then yes maybe Academia should have classes and seminars about them. Throw in a MrBeast ($1bn) for good measure.

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      I wonder what you think the role of academia in modern society should be.

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        It depends on what the students want to learn. There are people who want to be scientists, people who want to be teachers, there are also people who want to make money and run a business.

        Academia is a place where people can get an in-depth knowledge of the thing(s) they’re interested in learning to help prepare them to be successful in the outside world.

        It is a valid and money-making industry to be a profitable YouTuber. It takes planning, strategy, project management, financing, accounting, and various other people skills. Just because it’s YouTube, and just because you may not take it seriously, makes it no less of a viable and marketable skill that could be taught to other people.

        Now it’s your turn: what is your idea of the role of academia in modern society?

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          Advancing the state of human understanding. You’re talking about business school.

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          Not the other guy but IMO it’s pretty simple. Academia is for the pursuit of knowledge, you learn and the you contribute. That may coincide with making money and running a business but it does not have to. If you want to make money and run a business that’s what vocational studies should be, you learn a trade for the purpose of “being successful in the outside world”. The issue with society today is that we’ve come to glorify higher education and view vocations as some kind of negative. Academia in a modern society should stay focused on the pursuit of knowledge not on the pursuit of churning out degrees to make certain jobs look more legitimate than other jobs. Pursuit of money and running a business should be territory of vocational schools.

          There is no pursuit of knowledge in becoming a Youtuber or a Twitch streamer, so it should be taught as a vocation and not as a part of academia.

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      Considering they have a net worth of $45m and $40m, respectively, then yes maybe Academia should have classes and seminars about them.

      According to Credit Suisse, there were 264,200 people with net worth above US$50 million at the end of 2021. That is completely not noteworthy of a mention in any way, on a global level.

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        I beg to differ. There are over 8,123,000,000 people in the world. Your number (from three years ago) is only 0.003% of the world’s population. That’s less than 1%.

        Now, ignoring your fallacy of an argument, just because there are people in other careers that make more money does not mean being successful YouTuber/vLogger is any less viable than any other occupation.

        If that were the case, then there are a lot of more traditional roles that we wouldn’t be teaching; like Marine Biologist, who in the US makes on average $57k/year. And yet, Academia still pushes this science (among others) because there is still a demand for it.

        And make no mistake, Academia is not going to push subjects that aren’t in demand. They will teach what they feel is in demand enough to attract students.

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        Matt Patt was consulted when evaluating possible outcomes of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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          Oh come on mate, I left an open goal for you there.

          You could have scored an easy one by saying that their understanding of economic factors in the new media landscape is a relatively new field for study.

          You could have talked about the aspects of social discourse and relationships between the maker and the viewer.

          Fuck, you could have even framed what they do as artistic expression

          But nope, you are too tied up in the misplaced metric of financial success.

          And here’s why lectures about that would be next to useless… Their experiences are not transferable. You can’t copy what they do and expect success. That’s because novelty is a factor and you cannot teach that.

          Compare that to the scientific method where everything relies on being exactly able to reproduce results.

          Sure, there are plenty of purposes for academia, but what you suggest really isn’t one of them.

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          It’s not. It’s the actual point of academia. It is the one thing you cannot remove and still have academia.

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      How’s their success mean that there’s another university course made after them.